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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.lifeclever.com/a-styleguide-for-people-who-dont-like-styleguides/comment-page-1/#comment-3932</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I used to do work for comcast, and i can tell this is the only style guide our art department had on hand for Mtv, and we got it direct from them. to this day though, still think of it as one of the best i&#039;ve ever seen. I almost never had a question about what was acceptable usage and therefor had very few pieces kicked back from their legal department.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to do work for comcast, and i can tell this is the only style guide our art department had on hand for Mtv, and we got it direct from them. to this day though, still think of it as one of the best i&#8217;ve ever seen. I almost never had a question about what was acceptable usage and therefor had very few pieces kicked back from their legal department.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: christy</title>
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		<dc:creator>christy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just realized that you did say &quot;identity guidlines&quot; so pardon me for not getting it, if what i just said was totally irrelevant. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just realized that you did say &#8220;identity guidlines&#8221; so pardon me for not getting it, if what i just said was totally irrelevant. :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: christy</title>
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		<dc:creator>christy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As a graphic designer, I always made a big distinction between a style guide and logo regulations. A style guide can change frequently depending on the current marketing strategies as far as color, fonts, etc. but chances are the logo guidelines will remain pretty static (don&#039;t make the logo plaid, don&#039;t add drop shadows, don&#039;t crop the logo or remove any of its elements, etc.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So to me, this would only be one part of an overall style guide.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a graphic designer, I always made a big distinction between a style guide and logo regulations. A style guide can change frequently depending on the current marketing strategies as far as color, fonts, etc. but chances are the logo guidelines will remain pretty static (don&#8217;t make the logo plaid, don&#8217;t add drop shadows, don&#8217;t crop the logo or remove any of its elements, etc.)</p>

<p>So to me, this would only be one part of an overall style guide.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Billifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It would be nice if they&#039;d at least include PANTONE&#174; PMS numbers with their &quot;suggested&quot; colors, ya know?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for the guidelines, etc., yeah, the idea of &quot;do not alter the logo in any way (including but not limited to bleeding off the page, twisting, or cropping)&quot; could have been a little clearer. The &quot;styleguide&quot; looks more like a cheatsheet for MTV design interns/noobs than for actual PR or media kits.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice if they&#8217;d at least include PANTONE&reg; PMS numbers with their &#8220;suggested&#8221; colors, ya know?</p>

<p>As for the guidelines, etc., yeah, the idea of &#8220;do not alter the logo in any way (including but not limited to bleeding off the page, twisting, or cropping)&#8221; could have been a little clearer. The &#8220;styleguide&#8221; looks more like a cheatsheet for MTV design interns/noobs than for actual PR or media kits.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dudical</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dudical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sometimes my #2 is constrained. But then I take some metamucil and everything is A-ok ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes my #2 is constrained. But then I take some metamucil and everything is A-ok ;-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Captain Obvious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Obvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like the simplicity... and I guess you could crop the logo Bone but of course you may be constrained by #2.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the simplicity&#8230; and I guess you could crop the logo Bone but of course you may be constrained by #2.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chanpory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chanpory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mr Observant, thanks for noticing that. I&#039;ve posted an update to the end of the post. A mystery indeed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Observant, thanks for noticing that. I&#8217;ve posted an update to the end of the post. A mystery indeed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mr observant</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr observant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;check ou tthe Hi-Res site - there&#039;s a lot more to the styleguide than this one page that talksabout the logo&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check ou tthe Hi-Res site &#8211; there&#8217;s a lot more to the styleguide than this one page that talksabout the logo</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jsaltz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsaltz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;An abomination, it seems.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An abomination, it seems.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Ben&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Totally disagree with you on this point. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;B only showing what you can do - print using a single color using these colors, logo must be upright, it must be atleast this big, etc., etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Little to nothing at all is open to interpretation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I.E. The first thing I would challenge with the MTV standards is that I would crop it heavily.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nowhere in this document does it say I cannot crop it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is my point. By attempting to cover all possible unwanted uses you inevitably open up unitended uses as well.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ben</p>

<p>Totally disagree with you on this point. </p>

<p>B only showing what you can do &#8211; print using a single color using these colors, logo must be upright, it must be atleast this big, etc., etc.</p>

<p>Little to nothing at all is open to interpretation.</p>

<p>I.E. The first thing I would challenge with the MTV standards is that I would crop it heavily.</p>

<p>Nowhere in this document does it say I cannot crop it.</p>

<p>That is my point. By attempting to cover all possible unwanted uses you inevitably open up unitended uses as well.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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